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JeffStocksMusic

Registered: 02/15/08
Posts: 209
Reply with quote  #1 
In one of Mark Levy's lessons, Ted mentions a lesson sheet specific to diminished chord harmony that begins w/ Beethoven-type sounds and ends w/ Bill Evans.  Anyone have a scan of that sheet?  This is a real area of weakness for me...among so many others....

Peace.  jeff
TLerch

Registered: 11/29/07
Posts: 199
Reply with quote  #2 
Ditto for me,
 I have listened to the diminished lessons on Marks tapes a lot and have been banging my head on diminished harmony with some success but would love to hear more about it for others on the site. I am particularly interested in Ted's ideas about the secondary functions that he alludes to in Mark's lessons. Thanks in advance for any info on this wonderfully confusing and often misunderstood topic.

Deparko

Registered: 09/25/06
Posts: 78
Reply with quote  #3 
Hey,
If you give me the lesson date (file name) I will listen to it and see if I have that sheet.

Enjoy,
Mark

rafikenn

Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 72
Reply with quote  #4 
Here is a couple of things to get your ear friendly
with the dim. sound; start by playing the first 4notes
of a blues scale.root b3 4 b5,you all familiar with that
sound.than play the some shape from the last note,the
flat 5th:b5 6 7 1 .than play a minor scale from 1 to 5;
root 2 b3 4 5,a couple of times,than some only with the
flat 5,so you'll have:1 2 b3 4 b5,add the 6 7 1 on top,you'll
have 1 2 b3 4 b5 6 7 1,you notice the b6 has been left out,
i agree with Ted that it kind of spoils the bluesy flavor of the dim.
study the dim. triads with the 5 zones of the neck[check the lesson
section if you are not sure]in mind.open the triads by playing the middle
voice an octave higher,than do some things two more times,you'll have
close,open,more open and most open dim.triads.than add the 6th degree
to the triads,now the different shapes become similar in shape but still
different in function.check out Ted's single line vol 2 for systematic patterns,
solo improvisation CD has some interesting dim. stuff,the ending of it ain't' necessarily so from solo guitar.last,most commonly use for dim. in songs is:
a type of 1 to 1dim. 2min 5 one.like in key of Bb: Dm7[is a type of 1]c#dim 
is first invertion Bbdim[some day my prince will come]or some thing in Walt's
for Debi key of F,f/c fdim/c gm7 c7.all the things you are,some thing,Dbmaj7
Dbmin7 than cm7[one]Bdim.[one dim]2,5,1;hope that helps,peace Rafi.
JeffStocksMusic

Registered: 02/15/08
Posts: 209
Reply with quote  #5 

Mark, the lesson is from 01-27-92 (aka the one w/ the cricket).  He mentions the sheet around the 40 minute mark.  Sounds like a great sheet, from how he explains it.  Who wouldn't want to sound like Beethoven or Evans?

Deparko

Registered: 09/25/06
Posts: 78
Reply with quote  #6 
ok...think I have it.....1/27..Mozarts birthday...I've attached the page in question...enjoy

Mark


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JeffStocksMusic

Registered: 02/15/08
Posts: 209
Reply with quote  #7 

Thank you for taking the time to dig around for this sheet Mark. I appreciate it.

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